Christian conservatives may want third party...if Giuliani nominee
I think it is a good idea as I have stated over and over again. Giuliani at the helm of the GOP would water down the party to conservative nothingness on the social issues that matter most. Who wants a "conservative" party like that?
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posted by Matt Friedeman at
10:47 AM
8 Comments:
Isn't that option just going to guarantee a Democrat victory for the White House? Why not just encourage people to vote for the candidate that best fits with their values and discourage voting on electability?
I am sure that if the Republican party keeps diluting the true conservative values that brought many of us to it, a third party will evolve. It may not happen while I am around, but my children will have that option. They need to turn back to the right or they will end up being remembered in history like the Whig party.
“Who wants a conservative party like that?”
If by conservative you mean a party that limits the size, scope and power of the government in all areas (including our private lives), maximizes the liberty of individuals, and keeps me safe from other people and governments rather than from myself then that’d be me.
Believe it or not there is a vast swath of Republicans that still stand for what the party was before being hijacked by the extremist theocrats.
“Who wants a conservative party like that?”
Better than Hillary Clinton in White House, which is what you will get if a conservative third party candidate runs.
I only hope this will come to pass.
That way Christian conservatives can line up behind some Christian version of George Wallace and then hide their faces in shame for helping to elect Hillary.
I don't think it will happen. You guys will line up with Mitt "one day I'll become a god with 1000s of wives and my own planet" Romney.
OH MY GOSH!!! We're laying down and dying then, huh? Are we just gonna give up like that? Matt, you make me sick, sometimes! Get up and get "in the fight". If people like yourself and James Dobson don't get behind Brownback or Huckabee, then we lose! God's name gets shamed and the whole world loses this battle! Get up and fight, now, please!
Rudy has apparently decided the best response to this would be to thumb his nose. . .
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article2593078.ece
How many conservatives will still vote for this crooked lover of death just because, his opportunist, TV time after 9-11, he's "strong on defense" (read police state) and they think he can beat Hillary (read, polls know more than God) ?
Back in 2000 I was campaigning for Howard Phillips of the CP and Rudy/ Hillary were in the early stages of their race for the US Senate. I had a Baptist preacher give me the a similar "lesser-of-two-evil" arguments to the ones Mr. Bridges gave above.
I told him that voting for the lesser of two evils always gave us more evil not less. And then told him using this strategy,eventually he would have to choose the lesser of two evils between Hillary & Rudy for President.
He mocked me & said that would never happen.
If the choice were between Hitler and Stalin, who would you choose as the "lesser evil"? The great C.H. Spurgeon said, "Of two evils, choose neither."
Duty is ours, results are God's. It is not our responsibility to worry about electability, only to vote our principles.
God places rulers on their thrones -- and brings them down.
HE will determine who the next President will be. HE will turn the hearts and Providentially, perfectly determine who votes, who has car trouble, or rain, or who is even alive on election day.
We, as individuals, are not wise enough, or powerful enough, to know who can win and who can't.
God has given us one vote, one circle of influnence. We are accountable to him is to use these to his glory. Ultimately, we must stop trying to lose as slowly as possible and stop listening to those who ask us to check our principles at the door to the voting booth in the name of pragmatism & party loyalty (and the "wise men" of the media, talk radio, and big money who try and determine for the rest of us who the "legitmate" and "electable" and "viable" candidates are).
The Republican Party does not, by some birth right, own the votes and support of Christians & conservatives. They and their candidates must earn them.
Mr. Bridges, with all due respect, the assumptions behind these two questionss are contradictory :
" Isn't that option just going to guarantee a Democrat victory for the White House? Why not just encourage people to vote for the candidate that best fits with their values and discourage voting on electability?"
I know placing a link on this site is not normal "blog etiquette ", but if it's OK with Mr. Freidman, I would ask politically-minded CHRISTIANS to read this piece that I wrote -- aimed at you -- immediately after the Democratic takeover of Congress in the 2006 elections and carefully consider the arguments.
http://www.lesriley.net/donkey_revolution.htm
Les Riley
Mississippi Constitution Party Candidate for Commissioner of Agriculture
www.RileyForAgriculture.com
One more thing, everyone knows he's liberal, but I called Rudy "crooked" and an "opportunist" . . .
If you want evidence of this, please read the article at this URL
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts208.html
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